*if viewing on a mobile device (phone, tablet) please scroll down to bottom to play episode.
Use Apple? Listen and subscribe via iTunes! (or download Apple’s Podcast app)
Use Android? Listen and subscribe via Stitcher Radio! (or download Stitcher Radio app)
Summary & Intro
Barnabas Piper – Christ-follower, husband (10 years), dad (two girls), full-time at Lifeway Resources/Ministry Grid, author of numerous books, writer for WorldMag, avid and frequently disappointed Minnesota sports fan (blast those ’91 Twins v. Braves, argh!), blogger, podcaster, Millenial and a Minnesota native with a Tennessee accent (yup, hey y’all).
Recap & Synopsis
In this episode, I interview Barnabas Piper. Barnabas and I have a lot in common which helps aid the engagement of our discussion: both husbands of 10 years, dads of two girls, Millenials and now podcasters. Barnabas brings a transparent, honest look at his own identity discovery story and shares his personal, unique experience growing up as a pastor’s kid. We discuss how that shaped and informed his identity and how he discovered that his true identity actually comes from Jesus and not his parents’ faith. We also discuss the ins and outs of his book, “The Pastor’s Kid: Finding Your Own Faith and Identity”. I know you’ll be empowered, equipped and encouraged by his refreshing story and heart.
*The following are my favorite top quotes from Barnabas and I. Use them freely and widely, but please offer credit where credit is due. Thanks.
The observation and scrutiny on a pastor’s kid is like a sliding scale. So if you’re in a church of a 100 people, you’ll feel the same pressure as a PK in a church of a 1,000. It’s the exact same experience just expanded broader or narrower.
It’s easy for anyone, including myself, to parachute into someone’s life based off of one statement, sermon, interview out of context and start to make all kinds of assumptions. (Jonathan)
I deify things that make me feel good. The Christian idolatry is “I deify those people that I see as my conduit to God.” We tend to create this airbrushed picture of people who are our conduit to God. They introduced us to God and made God more real.
I was in a position where I knew and acted every single right thing and it led me to the wrong place.
I’m not always okay with mystery. I want to know what to do. Jesus is my identity, now I’ve got to go do something. (Jonathan)
Quote from “The Pastor’s Kid”, end of Chapter 4:
“A more important identity question faces PKs than ‘who am I?’ and that is ‘who is Jesus?’. He is the key to decipher this mess.”
Action Round (1 Take-away & 1 Action-Item)
1 TA (One take-away for YOU to think about)
Encourage the listener in how to care for a pastor’s family. View the pastor’s family the same way we ought to view ourselves. The single standard is, are we living a life that honors Jesus Christ? It will relieve a lot of pressure off of them. Eases the burden on them to be somebody they cannot be. View them simply as saints trying to live a life that pleases Jesus Christ.
1 AI (One action-item for YOU to go do.)
Two things to do: 1) Pray accordingly for your pastor’s family. They need it and you need it. 2) One thing a pastor’s family lacks is friends who they can trust. They have lots who entrust themselves to them, but not always a mutual relationship.
Barnabas on Twitter: @BarnabasPiper