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Ep#017: Erik Fisher, Identity & Productivity

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Spotlight: Erik Fisher

erik j fisher

Christian, husband of 13 years, dad of two kids (10 & 3), podcasting at Beyond the To Do List (since 2012), social media community manager for Michael Stelzner at the Social Media Examiner, coffee & self-proclaimed bacon connoisseur, productivity journeyman, time-management enthusiast, lover of all things batman and all-around generous guy!


Erik and I discuss the fluidity of our identity and how we process and learn from it over time. We discuss the power of productivity and doing work that matters and how that affects how we view ourselves. I love Erik’s down-to-earth approach and his humility to admit he has not figured this out but is rather in a learning process. We talk about the increase in popularity in our culture with productivity, time-managing hacks, social media and time lost browsing and being hyper-connected in this digital age. I love Erik’s awareness of how time is spent, how to recognize the difference between quality work and quantity of work and his focus on time-management vs. time-measurement. How is my value or self-worth affected by the importance I put on both the content I create online and the response or lack of response to it (Facebook Likes, number of comments, amount of reTweets, number of followers, feedback, shares, etc.)?

Top Quotes…

Even when I suck at getting anything done I still have worth. That’s a hard realization to come to. But if you can it helps your productivity, the pressure is off.

It’s not always about what gets accomplished but it’s somehow how you look at what you got done.

We have less memories of the work we do and more of the people we live with.

To go through the process and do things as best as you can even if you don’t know if it’s what you should be doing you then take that practice with you down the road. All that practice takes you to your “dues paid” to the thing you eventually want to do.

Simple hack: use separate browsers for work, personal and side projects.

We’re obsessed really with measuring our content. We now measure the validity or value of our content based on numerical data; based on quantity vs. quality. – Jonathan

How many likes or retweets did this get? This goes back to our identity: do I have worth because of something I posted got shared or commented on?

C.S. Lewis Quote from Erik:

“It comes the very moment you wake up each morning. All your wishes and hopes for the day rush at you like wild animals. And the first job each morning consists simply in shoving them all back; in listening to that other voice, taking that other point of view, letting that other larger, stronger, quieter life come flowing in. And so on, all day. Standing back from all your natural fussings and frettings; coming in out of the wind.” – C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

In an ideal world how would I start my day? Devotions, thinking, meditating, drinking water or coffee, getting affirmation of who I am and guidance.

What’s the purpose behind my productivity? The question is not necessarily easy but it’s crucial. – Jonathan

When it comes to faith it’s not believing that God exists but believing in who He says He is. I’d take it a step further and say it’s not just about that it’s about believing and trust that who He says you are that you trust Him with that too.

Our identity crisis is almost like a divine argument where we say “I think I’m this but God you say I’m this.” If we could just concede to God and agree with who He says I am. That takes quite a bit of humility for that to happen. – Jonathan

Part of awakening to the art of productivity is doing work that matters, doing work that is significant. – Jonathan

We should intentionally interrogate our tasks with some value questions: does this matter? is this significant? how does this work make me feel? – Jonathan


1 TA (One Take-away for YOU to think about)

Take some quiet time and ask yourself who do you think you are?

1 AI (One action-item for YOU to go do)

Think of one thing that you can do when you first get up and go to bed that bookends your day. What is that for you? Then do it.

It doesn’t need to be big it can be small. But you got to be consistent.

Simple hack: set a reminder on your phone in morning and evening.


Erik on Twitter

Erik’s Podcast: Beyond the To Do List

Erik’s two books: Ready, Aim, Fire and Hit the Mark (links below)

Resources Shared by Erik (and Jonathan)…

Gospel-Driven Productivity, Matt Perman

Ready – Aim – Fire

Hit The Mark!: The Ultimate Productivity Guide To Changing Your Life

What’s Best Next: How the Gospel Transforms the Way you get Things Done, by Matt Perman


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